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everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, there are a number of people who have made commitments that they will, in fact, vote for cloture when we return. so this is some kind of grandstanding that goes on. i'm confident he'll get the votes when we return, and he will take his place as secretary of state. but he is going to miss the nato conference next week, and it sends a signal to the rest of the world that maybe he doesn't have the full support of the american government, which is not a good place for our secretary of defense to be in. >> well, the jackals are in the streets tonight. thank you so much, senator claire mccaskill. and peter beinart, thank you for joining us as well. >>> coming up, the frantic rantings of the nra. citizen lapierre has gotten crazier. he says we need to buy guns, to arm up to protect ourselves from the marauding hispanic gangs. >>> remember the line, this one, from "brokeback mountain," i wish i knew how to quit you. well, republicans just can't quit their cartoon version of president
everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, there are a number of people who have made commitments that they will, in fact, vote for cloture when we return. so this is some kind of grandstanding that goes on. i'm confident he'll get the votes when we return, and he will take his place as secretary of state. but he is going to miss the nato conference next week, and it sends a signal to the rest of the world that maybe he doesn't have the full support of the...
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senate republicans have successfully blocked a vote on chuck hagel. republicans have thrown out so many different reasons for this it's hard to know why they're opposing the man becoming secretary of defense. it's hard to keep up with all their arguments. it's because hagel hasn't accounted for every penny he's made and every single word of every single speech he's ever given. it's because of what he said about israel and iran, maybe, but it's also because of the white house's response to benghazi, perhaps, something obviously, but that was nothing to do with chuck hagel who wasn't in the government at that time. well, today republican threats to take the unprecedented step of blocking a presidential cabinet appointment came to fruition, if you will. democrats moved forward with a procedural vote to end debate and pave the way for a final up and down vote. then it failed. it failed to get the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. so -- and this just happened. where does hagel's nomination go from here and what are the republicans really up to here
senate republicans have successfully blocked a vote on chuck hagel. republicans have thrown out so many different reasons for this it's hard to know why they're opposing the man becoming secretary of defense. it's hard to keep up with all their arguments. it's because hagel hasn't accounted for every penny he's made and every single word of every single speech he's ever given. it's because of what he said about israel and iran, maybe, but it's also because of the white house's response to...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note that says, i have been told that i made a mistake. of course i am not in support of that. a policy of this administration on containment is that it does t have a policy of containment. at whi poi democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the surge when you ta
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says,...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i support the administration's policy on containment. he then received a note and says i he been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that.t. the policy of this administration on containining is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in a position where he had to dodge a little bit. let'go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge.e. the issue was never the surge when you talk about i
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i...
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the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references to vietnam. let's listen. >> in january of 2007 in a rather bizarre exchange with secretary rice in the foreign relations co
the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck...
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them have their war in iran and that is their problem with chuck hagel. >> i think our brains are connected, i say that again joy, you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them, they're brilliant. i'm serious. i'm patronizing, i think you're unbelievable. i keep hearing my brain talk. thank you, joy reed. thank you david cornyn. >>> coming up, it's hoil's last d hillary clinton's last day in the state department. the first day of the rest of her life, it may well include a run for president in 2016. there are plenty of democrats waiting for her to say i do. >>> also, men behaving badly. we showed you john mccain and lindsay graham's rude behavior. and they're hardly alone. the lesson that many of the gop seem to have learned from 2012 is, if you want to stop losing elections, just keep doing exactly what you've been doing. >>> the documentary "the gatekeepers" a fascinating look at the members of israel's security agency. the interesting job of dealing with palestinians in the occupied territories. they're a lot more like barack obama than like benjamin netanyahu. >>> l
them have their war in iran and that is their problem with chuck hagel. >> i think our brains are connected, i say that again joy, you're so smart. because i agree with your words as you speak them, they're brilliant. i'm serious. i'm patronizing, i think you're unbelievable. i keep hearing my brain talk. thank you, joy reed. thank you david cornyn. >>> coming up, it's hoil's last d hillary clinton's last day in the state department. the first day of the rest of her life, it may...
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here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as they used to say in vietnam. this is navy pilot john mccain with his squadron in 1965 before he was captured. hagel made reference to the vantage point an enlisted man has in war. >> i saw it from the bottom. i saw what happens. i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice, because there will be sacrifice. in the surge case in iraq, we lost almost 1,200 dead americans during that surge and thousands of wounded. now, was it required? was it necessary? senator mccain has his own opinion on that shared by others. i'm not sure. i'm not that certain that it was required. >> you know, the horror of vietnam, where i wasn't -- i always point that out -- the guys who were, into the jungle, fighting an enemy you couldn't see. there were no p.o.w.s in the jungle wars. they didn't t
here is chuck hagel in vietnam back in '68 when he went in. he was an enlisted soldier and rose to sergeant. a noncommissioned officer with the infantry, a grunt as they used to say in vietnam. this is navy pilot john mccain with his squadron in 1965 before he was captured. hagel made reference to the vantage point an enlisted man has in war. >> i saw it from the bottom. i saw what happens. i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always...
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senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never happen brsh. >> that's a hard thinking to do anything about. we had a chance to do something about a procedure that is dysfunctional and basically flawed, and we democrats took a pass on it. i go back to that. we're responsible for this. as to glen's point, glen, i brae agree with you. this was an isolated incident. it's not that big a deal. it's playing out at the same time when you have the head of the nra absolutely delivering one of the most racial overtoned, insane -- >> screeds, i have seen. not one republican standing up and saying this guy i
senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never...
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chuck hagel's now secretary of deference. it's a done deal. but not without a campaign to smear him by guilt by association. first the false story of hagel's ties to a nonexistent group called -- there's no such thing. friends of hamas. and here was rand paul on the radio earlier this month talking about this as if it actually existed. >> let me bring up one piece of information that ben shapiro at breitbart put out today. which is one of the foreign funders behind senator hagel that he has not yet disclosed formally is something called friends of hamas. if that is, in fact, true would that lead you to vote against mr. hagel? >> you know, i saw that information today also. and that is more and more concerning with each day there are new things coming out. >> and then just a few days later senator ted cruz of texas questioned whether hagel had been financed by north korea. or saudi arabia. >> we saw with his nomination something truly extraordinary. which is the government of iran formerly and publicly praising the nomination of a defense secre
chuck hagel's now secretary of deference. it's a done deal. but not without a campaign to smear him by guilt by association. first the false story of hagel's ties to a nonexistent group called -- there's no such thing. friends of hamas. and here was rand paul on the radio earlier this month talking about this as if it actually existed. >> let me bring up one piece of information that ben shapiro at breitbart put out today. which is one of the foreign funders behind senator hagel that he...
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does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really only know him from the anti-iraq positions that he took, as well as some of the other thing he's did, such as endorsing deb fisher's opponent. >> to that point, roger, the senator was on msnbc earlier today. here what's he said. it has nothing to do with the personal issues laid out by senator mccain. let me play it. >> this doesn't have anything to do with a grudge. this has something to do with picking the best person to be the leader of the largest defense organization in the world. he's not the right guy for dod. he's well to the left
does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really...
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primarily focusing on chuck hagel and the fact that will come to a vote tomorrow. he would be the first foot soldier, you know, in that position. a vietnam vet, has a great career as a republican from nebraska. what do you think is the main opposition to seeing him get into that seat? he said weak and wobbly performance at his hearing. >> i don't know what the opposition is quite frankly, thomas. maybe susan can help explain it. i think one of the reasonable republicans out there. he's a republican and he has been a republican who democrats have had uneasiness in the past. president obama's appointment and he should have an up or down vote. i think that harry reid should go back and reconsider the whole idea about the filibuster negotiation they had last month. but, i mean, they have asked for five years of financial records from chuck hagel, they were comfortable for one year of financial records from mitt romney and suddenly for a person with few responsibilities they want more records, completely inconsistent. >> as we see from plymoupolitic republicans see the
primarily focusing on chuck hagel and the fact that will come to a vote tomorrow. he would be the first foot soldier, you know, in that position. a vietnam vet, has a great career as a republican from nebraska. what do you think is the main opposition to seeing him get into that seat? he said weak and wobbly performance at his hearing. >> i don't know what the opposition is quite frankly, thomas. maybe susan can help explain it. i think one of the reasonable republicans out there. he's a...
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a vote on chuck hagel is really going to be touch and go. they are watching this right along with everyone else. but administration officials really pressing the narrative that this comes as an incredibye difficult time. if he isn't confirmed this week and if it does not come to a full vote for another 12 days, that means hagel will not be able to travel to brussels for that nato summit. this is a critical time for the united states as it prepares to draw down troops from afghanistan. the president announcing during his state of the union address he will draw down 30,000 troops in the next year. they believe it's critical for chuck hagel to be there is he can help to talk to the allies about that transition process. some tense moments for the white house. again, they are calling this unconscionable, pointing to the fact this is first time this has really happened in u.s. history. earlier today the white house released that letter that came from kathy rumler, the legal counsel, giving some answers about what happened during the night of bengh
a vote on chuck hagel is really going to be touch and go. they are watching this right along with everyone else. but administration officials really pressing the narrative that this comes as an incredibye difficult time. if he isn't confirmed this week and if it does not come to a full vote for another 12 days, that means hagel will not be able to travel to brussels for that nato summit. this is a critical time for the united states as it prepares to draw down troops from afghanistan. the...
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he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an -- would put together a budget like this. a speech about all his years in the senate through all the heated debates no one had ever called him that. another man might have taken a moment to check his temper, but mccain went on, i wouldn't call you that unless you really were that. >> you can disagree, but if you're disagreeable, then people don't forget that. >> ah, the arbiter of disagreeable. it is rich to hear that as the supposed criticism of chuck hagel coming from john mccain. but honestly, it's not just john mccain's personal hypocrisy here. this is a wash
he says chuck hagel is too darn disagreeable. so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an --...
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can chuck hagel mend fences in the republican party? >> is he technically a republican, but i think we should leave the guy alone, respect the president's decision, and see what committee do. >> leave the dude alone. >> amen. >> amen to that. i don't know. he has a lot on his plate. john brennan is now the strawman for the republican party. they may hold up his nomination. in the end, michael eric dyson, is this obstruction benefitting the republican party? >> not at all. the reality is that they hate who they hate because they hate the guy in charge, so they end up hating the people who are themselves. we've seen the enemy, and it's us, except they don't recognize that they're doing the country a great disservice, and by targeting, you know, hagel and brennan, and you might have legitimate opposition to them, but do it in a way that is above board, not across the board kind of filibustering and the people who are in the cabinet serve at the president's leisure and his pleasure, and we've now set a horrible precedent. >> we have to leav
can chuck hagel mend fences in the republican party? >> is he technically a republican, but i think we should leave the guy alone, respect the president's decision, and see what committee do. >> leave the dude alone. >> amen. >> amen to that. i don't know. he has a lot on his plate. john brennan is now the strawman for the republican party. they may hold up his nomination. in the end, michael eric dyson, is this obstruction benefitting the republican party? >> not...
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none of this has satisfied those leading the witch hunt against chuck hagel. during a google hangout this afternoon the president weighed in on the first ever filibuster of a secretary of defense nominee. >> it's just unfortunate that this kind of politics intrudes at a time when i'm still presiding over a war in afghanistan and i need a secretary of defense who is coordinating with our allies to make sure that our troops are getting the kind of strategy and mission that they deserve. >> all right. let's go to the big panel tonight. let's turn to bloomberg view columnist jonathan alter with us. also michelle goldberg of "newsweek" and the daily beast. and david corn of "mother jones" magazine. great to have all of you with us. jonathan, you first tonight. is this unprecedented filibuster a sign that the senate is totally broken? what do you make of what unfolded today? >> well, i just think it's a really unfortunate signal that the united states is sending to the world when as the president indicated you have, you know, conflicts abroad. and for us to say that
none of this has satisfied those leading the witch hunt against chuck hagel. during a google hangout this afternoon the president weighed in on the first ever filibuster of a secretary of defense nominee. >> it's just unfortunate that this kind of politics intrudes at a time when i'm still presiding over a war in afghanistan and i need a secretary of defense who is coordinating with our allies to make sure that our troops are getting the kind of strategy and mission that they deserve....
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what about chuck hagel? chuck, you had leon panetta on "meet the press" this weekend, and martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs. let me ask both of you what kind of power that chuck hagel would have, assuming he gets confirmed? how does he move into this period where he has to really fight for resources from congress and also deal within the cabinet, deal with the white house? snoo that seems to be the real question now. it's not if he is going to get confirmed. the political votes are there. another republican came on board over the weekend. roy blunt will vote no, but not filibuster. the votes are there to confirm him. that is not the question. the question is he going to have the political swagger, if you will, that secretary of defense immediate to both operate inside the pentagon, and that's -- you heard robert gibbs, former press secretary yesterday say it was a little disconcerting watching him give those answers. they made a strategic decision not to have a debate with those republican sen
what about chuck hagel? chuck, you had leon panetta on "meet the press" this weekend, and martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs. let me ask both of you what kind of power that chuck hagel would have, assuming he gets confirmed? how does he move into this period where he has to really fight for resources from congress and also deal within the cabinet, deal with the white house? snoo that seems to be the real question now. it's not if he is going to get confirmed. the...
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that's chuck hagel's first line of business. that's the first thing he'll have to do when he wakes up in the morning deal with sequester. as the troops come back from afghanistan the pentagon budget was going to be decreased already. but sequester cuts are significant on top of that. >> michael: and do you expect hagel, and we all expect him to pare down the defense budget. how do you expect him to do it? here is a guy with a history of calling for reasonable reforms in actuality which is why a lot of republicans opposed him. >> that was a major concern. he had inflammatory quotes brought up when they actually asked him questions about what he's going to be like as defense secretary. but his views on the budget, at one time he called bloated really concerned republicans. they were paying closely to what he had said in the past. chuck hagel is certainly going to have a lot to deal with and a lot on his plate with sequester and budget cuts in general. whether he'll approach them from this perspective that the pentagon budget is bl
that's chuck hagel's first line of business. that's the first thing he'll have to do when he wakes up in the morning deal with sequester. as the troops come back from afghanistan the pentagon budget was going to be decreased already. but sequester cuts are significant on top of that. >> michael: and do you expect hagel, and we all expect him to pare down the defense budget. how do you expect him to do it? here is a guy with a history of calling for reasonable reforms in actuality which is...
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you know i like chuck hagel a lot. and you like him a lot. >> i do. >> we've loved working with him at the atlantic council. i want him to be sec spadef. i'm just explaining for people in washington, and ed certainly knows this, payback is hell. and hagel's learning it just like ted cruz is going to learn it in the future. >> me thinks, though, carl bernstein is really funny that john mccain or lindsey graham would call someone disagreeable at times. is that just me? >> i'll let you say that. i wrote the original cover story for "vanity fair" on john mccain in 1999. and part of the institutional history here is the john tower nomination, which is the other nominee for secretary of defense who was rejected by a partisan democratic witch hunt on grounds that john tower was a womanizer and drank too much. now, those might be somewhat accurate or might not be. but whatever the case, it was a very personal fight like this one. in this case, chuck hagel who we all know how smart he can be, how effective hean be, was awful. i
you know i like chuck hagel a lot. and you like him a lot. >> i do. >> we've loved working with him at the atlantic council. i want him to be sec spadef. i'm just explaining for people in washington, and ed certainly knows this, payback is hell. and hagel's learning it just like ted cruz is going to learn it in the future. >> me thinks, though, carl bernstein is really funny that john mccain or lindsey graham would call someone disagreeable at times. is that just me? >>...